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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  11:45:22  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/13/2012 :  23:51:38  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see helldog's MSN Messenger address Send helldog a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/15/2012 :  11:18:16  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/16/2012 :  14:53:11  ·|­û¸ê®Æ  Click to see helldog's MSN Messenger address Send helldog a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/17/2012 :  10:12:00  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 01/17/2012 :  17:31:58  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send rockitten a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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it is just like the revolution of precision weapons, we may say it starts on Vietnam war (the GBU on bridges), scholars may say WWII.....

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