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dfmtf
新手上路

167 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2009 :  20:46:11  會員資料 Send dfmtf a Private Message  引言回覆
不論是空射的還是面射的, 真的有這種東西嗎?
以前聽說要接收預警機或戰機雷達的訊號要很大口徑的天線
所以不能裝在對空導彈上

在一般軍事雜誌中看不到有這種東西的介紹
只有在大陸的論壇中有人說FT2000有反輻射型

toga
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Tajikistan
13232 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2009 :  23:04:15  會員資料 Send toga a Private Message  引言回覆
R-27P/AA-10F(北約代號:Alamo-F)

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/archive/index.php?t-24787.html

JANE'S MISSILES AND ROCKETS - MAY 01, 2004

Vympel offers R-27EP anti-radar air-to-air missile

Piotr Butowski

Vympel is offering the R-27EP anti-radar version of its R-27 (AA-10 'Alamo') series of air-to-air missiles on the export market, writes Piotr Butowski. It showed a model of the weapon at the recent FIDAE defence exhibition in Santiago, Chile.

The missile is not a totally new concept. The first test launchings of the original R-27P passive-radar homing missile were made from a MiG-29 testbed in 1984. In 1987, the R-27P missile was adopted for service with what was then the Soviet air force, and in 1991 the Artem factory in Kiev, Ukraine, made a short production run of missiles. These are currently in service with the Russian Air Force.

Until recently, the existence of the R-27P could not be confirmed. Reports described it as being a weapon for use against fighter aircraft, AEW aircraft or standoff jammers. The first direct evidence for the weapon came when the Ukraine company Artem offered it for export.

Production of R-27P ended after the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Although the Artem factory is still offering the R-27P, it is unlikely to be able to deliver these because the homing head - an essential component of the missile - is made only by the CKBA factory in Omsk, Russia.

The R-27P and -EP missile - P for passivnaya (passive) - are equipped with a PRGS-27 (or 9B-1032) seeker developed by CKBA. This operates at centimetric wavelengths, and guides the round to the radar of enemy fighter aircraft. The missile is intended for use against enemy fighters at long range, when the launch aircraft may still be beyond the maximum range of the target's radar. Since the weapon uses passive homing, it will give the target no warning that a launch has been made.

Vympel offers two versions of the missile: the standard R-27P with a maximum range of 72km and the 'energetic' version R-27EP with a bigger rocket motor which gives a maximum range of 110km. This maintains the dual-standard policy set by the original active-radar and infrared-guided versions, which were fielded in medium (R-27R and -27T) and long-range (R-27ER and -27ET) variants respectively. The R-27P and -27EP retain the basic configuration of the earlier members of the AA-10 'Alamo' series, including the novel trapezoidal 'butterfly' control surfaces.

The homing head is capable of detecting a target from a range of more than 200km, but the R-27EP cannot carry out an interception at such distances. The flight time would exceed the operating duration of the missile's onboard power supply. Vympel is working on ways of increasing the operating time of the power supply in order to allow R-27EP engagements at up to 200km.

Series manufacturing of R-27P/EP missiles would be carried out at Vympel's facilities in Moscow. The company does not envisage large production orders for such a specialised weapon, so it would be able to meet the likely demand using its own workshops. At present Vympel is manufacturing small batches of R-77 (RVV-AE) and Kh-29 missiles for export. Annual production of these amounts to only 200-300 examples.

Specification R-27P R-27EP

Launch weight 248kg 346kg

Warhead weight 39kg 39kg

Length 4,000mm 4,700mm

Diameter 230mm 260mm

Wing span 772mm 800mm

Fin span 972mm 972mm

Maximum altitude of the target 20 km 20 km

Maximum g-load of the target 5.5 5.5

Maximum range 72km 110km

Minimum firing distance 2-3km 2-3km

Edited by - toga on 09/26/2009 23:08:50
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三叉戟
新手上路

183 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2009 :  13:10:41  會員資料 Send 三叉戟 a Private Message  引言回覆
傳聞有射程可達400公里的反輻射導彈
請問理論上可否做到呢?
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dasha
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Posted - 09/28/2009 :  09:41:49  會員資料 Send dasha a Private Message  引言回覆
前蘇聯是有發展,蘇聯系反艦飛彈等級的大飛彈,蘇聯解體時還是屬於要錢製造測試彈的狀況,但目的與其說是打下敵機,不如說是迫使敵機離開既有的賽馬道巡邏區.
這種東西的導航會與乘波魚雷一個樣,東轉西轉去慢慢確定目標方位,因此動力射程很大,但實際射程會被這種導航動作浪費不少,這是射程要做得大的原因.

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Alien
我是菜鳥

Taiwan
367 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  00:10:35  會員資料 Send Alien a Private Message  引言回覆
在下記得標準防空飛彈有某些型號是反輻射導向,不過主要的目的是希望成為防空與反艦的雙用飛彈......
只是為何現在很少有雙用飛彈呢?(在下知道西方國家有在研發多用途飛彈,不過目前進度似乎不明確...)

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dasha
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42836 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  06:25:19  會員資料 Send dasha a Private Message  引言回覆
AGM-78,那個主要還是對付雷達站,飛機除了AWACS算是比較穩定的輻射源以外,其他的電波持續性太差,很難追蹤.否則小弟會提AIM-9C,這個也是反輻射,而且出現的時間超早......又,後來這些AIM-9C被改成了直升機用的反輻射飛彈......
雙用飛彈的問題是,除了核彈頭以外,小小的彈頭威力實在是低,因此針對不同目標需要有不同類型的彈頭設計與尋標系統設計,雖然早期也有這類設計,但效果不怎樣,所以後來就不太這樣搞了.SM的反艦能力是尋標因素,不能超地平線;ASROC的射程只有更短;吹管的HEAT彈頭也可以對付裝甲車,但隨便一種中空裝甲就能讓它失效;地獄火雖然號稱能打直升機,但雷射乘波的移動目標追蹤能力太有限.

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台北縣板橋市大觀路一二樓公寓,接近國小至大學各級學校及公車總站,離捷運及板橋車站不遠.
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SK2
路人甲乙丙

2341 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  21:30:43  會員資料 Send SK2 a Private Message  引言回覆
quote:
Originally posted by dasha

AGM-78,那個主要還是對付雷達站,飛機除了AWACS算是比較穩定的輻射源以外,其他的電波持續性太差,很難追蹤.否則小弟會提AIM-9C,這個也是反輻射,而且出現的時間超早......又,後來這些AIM-9C被改成了直升機用的反輻射飛彈......



The AGM-78 did got a cousin that can do air-to-air, the AIM-97 Seekbat, which was designed to play against MiG-25

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blackknight
路人甲乙丙

4339 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2009 :  05:13:27  會員資料  Click to see blackknight's MSN Messenger address Send blackknight a Private Message  引言回覆
其實看這幾年的發展 小弟會覺得與其發展空對空反輻射飛彈 不如直接發展超遠程空對空飛彈了
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