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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  08:19:46  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send dasha a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  10:40:02  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send youngyang458 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Good, please do find the Vietnamese altitude towards China, especially during the early 90's. You would know that they have no respect(·q) and no fear(¬È) towards China, and the PLA.

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Are you sure you are the only one that got those unofficial links with this war?

Oh by the way, didn't you trust official records more? Why suddenly talk about unofficial ones?




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Good, please do find the Vietnamese altitude towards China, especially during the early 90's. You would know that they have no respect(·q) and no fear(¬È) towards China, and the PLA.

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"«C¥X©óÂŦӳөóÂÅ", did you ever heard that?

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Are you sure you are the only one that got those unofficial links with this war?

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