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https://twitter.com/fissilematerial/status/1736395904666526094
China started operation of two new enrichment plants in 2023 - at Emeishan and Lanzhou. About 1.5-2 million SWU/year each, bringing total capacity to about 11 mSWU/year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Panel_on_Fissile_Materials
The International Panel on Fissile Materials (IPFM), established in 2006, is a group of independent nuclear experts from 17 countries: Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Iran, Japan, Mexico, Norway, Pakistan, South Korea, Russia, South Africa, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

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