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小毛
我是老鳥

Taiwan
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Posted - 03/25/2026 :  18:22:31  會員資料  Visit 小毛's Homepage Send 小毛 a Private Message  引言回覆
未來會是趨勢嗎? 混和動力電推? 低速時柴油機發電,驅動電動馬達。高速時更大的柴油機或是渦輪機加入發電,驅動更大顆的電動馬達...說不定可以省去複雜的齒輪組並聯機械動力設計....

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小毛
我是老鳥

Taiwan
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Posted - 03/26/2026 :  11:48:22  會員資料  Visit 小毛's Homepage Send 小毛 a Private Message  引言回覆
以前一直覺得大型船艦甲板以上差個幾十噸不會有啥影響......加拿大給個範例

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2026/canada-reveals-updated-river-class-destroyer-design-with-major-combat-system-changes
Canada reveals updated River-class destroyer design with major combat system changes.
The most significant configuration changes, well under 1% of total displacement, concern the weapon system layout, where the 30–35 tonnes Leonardo 127/64 gun (including mount and below-deck systems) has been replaced by the 22–24 tonnes Mk 45 5-inch gun, reducing weight by 8 to 12 tonnes and aligning with systems already installed on other Type 26 variants, while the removal of the ExLS launcher (15–30+ tonnes for a full installation) eliminates the planned Sea Ceptor missile capability and simplifies the missile architecture to a single set of 24 Mk41 vertical launch cells arranged in three eight-cell modules (for a total weight of 75 to 90 tonnes) capable of accommodating ESSM Block II, SM-2, or Tomahawk missiles, with reserved space for an additional eight-cell module in the future, indicating a design choice that limits missile density in favor of cost, integration simplicity, and emphasis on anti-submarine operations.

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teamgod311
路人甲乙丙

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Posted - 03/26/2026 :  12:12:13  會員資料 Send teamgod311 a Private Message  引言回覆
quote:
Originally posted by 小毛

以前一直覺得大型船艦甲板以上差個幾十噸不會有啥影響......加拿大給個範例

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2026/canada-reveals-updated-river-class-destroyer-design-with-major-combat-system-changes
Canada reveals updated River-class destroyer design with major combat system changes.
The most significant configuration changes, well under 1% of total displacement, concern the weapon system layout, where the 30–35 tonnes Leonardo 127/64 gun (including mount and below-deck systems) has been replaced by the 22–24 tonnes Mk 45 5-inch gun, reducing weight by 8 to 12 tonnes and aligning with systems already installed on other Type 26 variants, while the removal of the ExLS launcher (15–30+ tonnes for a full installation) eliminates the planned Sea Ceptor missile capability and simplifies the missile architecture to a single set of 24 Mk41 vertical launch cells arranged in three eight-cell modules (for a total weight of 75 to 90 tonnes) capable of accommodating ESSM Block II, SM-2, or Tomahawk missiles, with reserved space for an additional eight-cell module in the future, indicating a design choice that limits missile density in favor of cost, integration simplicity, and emphasis on anti-submarine operations.

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如果連這艘7800-8080噸的船都只能折衷24單元垂發,那當年震海案卡死4530噸要4面盾+32單元是在哈搂?
當初就在猜海軍打死不要國造戰鬥系統,搞死震海後卻沒備案,果然時間間接驗證。

蜀中無大將廖化當先鋒,青蟳硬著頭皮幹,剛好那時灰色地帶作戰很蚌,青蟳剛好上位,
什麼4530/4面固定盾/艦體聲納/直升機庫/32單元垂發都可以放棄堅持...
犧牲這麼多青蟳還是延後...雖然是美方製造業衰退+疫情的鍋。

但當時海軍有聽美方建議,把4530改為雙面旋轉盾,或是放大5500噸以上維持4面盾+但改24單元垂發(品字排列),
中華民國海軍的下代震海巡防艦首艦早就服役,甚至量產艦也開始開工,
只能說海軍短視近利+共諜/中共同路人?白白虛度光陰,沒有發揮專業淪為內鬥打手。

現在連青蟳都卡住,而拉法葉垂發要看今年是否順利,希望海軍不要放水踐踏專業,
拉法葉傳言事先成軍後補測,希望是假消息,反正今年實彈演練,是牛是馬就知道。

Edited by - teamgod311 on 03/26/2026 12:15:37
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yangly3
我是老鳥

10250 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2026 :  09:57:31  會員資料 Send yangly3 a Private Message  引言回覆
因为大家拿水师的定位,就是给美帝打下手。

虽然是7、8000吨的大舰,也只是二线的打杂舰。吨位辣麽大,其实更多的是得跟在美帝屁股后面满世界转的需要

但震海舰不同,她的定位是一级主力舰,虽然持续力、适航性的要求可以适当放宽,但是战力要求绝对是只高不低

所以,震海舰是属于先天不足,如果放在和平年代或许还有经济性与平台通用性的可取。但是,在2018年以后台军建设转以备战2027为首要以后,震海舰比上不足比下有余的缺陷已经是は法接受的咯。

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