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fffanfan
我是菜鳥

303 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  13:34:37  會員資料 Send fffanfan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by LUMBER


想到有朋友在說
台灣真的是世界民主先驅..............(思


















所谓台湾民主就是台湾的自嗨,全球绝大部分国家都没听说过台湾,台湾人感觉在美国人、英国人、日本人、韩国人、澳大利亚人欧洲人会看的起台湾民主?真是个笑话!
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MKMAN200
路人甲乙丙

1856 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  14:32:27  會員資料 Send MKMAN200 a Private Message
"沒聽說台灣"這個也太損人了吧

Edited by - MKMAN200 on 10/25/2020 14:39:32
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JonJon
路人甲乙丙

3583 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  15:10:57  會員資料 Send JonJon a Private Message
吃不到葡萄說葡萄酸
統不到台灣說台灣不存在~~
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fffanfan
我是菜鳥

303 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  18:21:00  會員資料 Send fffanfan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MKMAN200

"沒聽說台灣"這個也太損人了吧


80%的美国人连美国在世界地图的什么地方都不知道,你认为这些人会听说过台湾??

剩下20%的美国精英你认为会认为台湾民主很典范?
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JonJon
路人甲乙丙

3583 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  18:55:43  會員資料 Send JonJon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fffanfan

quote:
Originally posted by MKMAN200

"沒聽說台灣"這個也太損人了吧


80%的美国人连美国在世界地图的什么地方都不知道,你认为这些人会听说过台湾??

剩下20%的美国精英你认为会认为台湾民主很典范?



https://newtalk.tw/news/view/2020-10-22/483156

拜登投書稱「台灣是美國最親近的夥伴」

拜登同時在投書中表示,將「深化與台灣的關係」,他稱讚台灣是居於領先地位的民主政體、主要經濟體,以及科技重鎮,他更盛讚台灣是「開放社會可以有效控制新冠病毒的閃亮典範」。

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拜登説台灣是領先地位的民主政體,有其他美國政治菁英表示反對嗎?

Edited by - JonJon on 10/25/2020 18:56:12
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BlueWhaleMoon
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12508 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2020 :  18:58:11  會員資料 Send BlueWhaleMoon a Private Message
不管你信不信,反正拜登相信了。
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Captain Picard
我是老鳥

9618 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2020 :  09:48:05  會員資料 Send Captain Picard a Private Message
最後的民調,沒什麼surprise

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/02/election-2020-live-updates-trump-biden.html
UPDATED MON, NOV 2 20208:11 PM EST

The polling averages have been steady, showing Joe Biden with a large national lead over President Trump. In swing states, where the election will be decided, polling averages are tighter, although Biden has an edge in most of them. Both candidates are hitting the road today in one last mad dash before the voters who haven’t cast their ballots early head to the polls. Trump will split his time between Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, while Biden will focus mainly on Pennsylvania and a stop in Ohio.

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/presidential-polls-trump-biden

Assessing the last polls before the election.A smidge of tightening, but Biden ends with a commanding lead.
There wasn’t a lot of room for us to be surprised today, after a week of intensive polling. And indeed, we weren’t too surprised.

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Nov. 2, 2020
1 day until Election Day

What Trump needs to win:A polling error much bigger than 2016’s.
President Trump’s surprising victory in 2016 gave him an aura of political invincibility. But he’s in a far bigger predicament now than the one he faced heading into Election Day in 2016. The polls show Joe Biden with a far more significant lead than the one held by Hillary Clinton, and many of the likeliest explanations for the polling misfire do not appear to be in play today.

Over at The Upshot, I go into the ways the polls are different today than they were in 2016, and what sort of polling error Mr. Trump would need to win at this point. (A big one.)

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fffanfan
我是菜鳥

303 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2020 :  17:47:39  會員資料 Send fffanfan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Picard

最後的民調,沒什麼surprise

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/02/election-2020-live-updates-trump-biden.html
UPDATED MON, NOV 2 20208:11 PM EST

The polling averages have been steady, showing Joe Biden with a large national lead over President Trump. In swing states, where the election will be decided, polling averages are tighter, although Biden has an edge in most of them. Both candidates are hitting the road today in one last mad dash before the voters who haven’t cast their ballots early head to the polls. Trump will split his time between Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, while Biden will focus mainly on Pennsylvania and a stop in Ohio.

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/presidential-polls-trump-biden

Assessing the last polls before the election.A smidge of tightening, but Biden ends with a commanding lead.
There wasn’t a lot of room for us to be surprised today, after a week of intensive polling. And indeed, we weren’t too surprised.

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Nov. 2, 2020
1 day until Election Day

What Trump needs to win:A polling error much bigger than 2016’s.
President Trump’s surprising victory in 2016 gave him an aura of political invincibility. But he’s in a far bigger predicament now than the one he faced heading into Election Day in 2016. The polls show Joe Biden with a far more significant lead than the one held by Hillary Clinton, and many of the likeliest explanations for the polling misfire do not appear to be in play today.

Over at The Upshot, I go into the ways the polls are different today than they were in 2016, and what sort of polling error Mr. Trump would need to win at this point. (A big one.)

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MDC Naval Ensign.



我还是相信川普
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MKMAN200
路人甲乙丙

1856 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2020 :  18:46:39  會員資料 Send MKMAN200 a Private Message
川普這4年也過足總統癮了,是時候回歸正常生活了
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fffanfan
我是菜鳥

303 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2020 :  21:21:35  會員資料 Send fffanfan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MKMAN200

川普這4年也過足總統癮了,是時候回歸正常生活了



NO~~~ 川普还没有把奥巴马和拜登的烂摊子收拾好。还没有让美国再次伟大。
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yangly3
我是老鳥

6333 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  00:25:11  會員資料 Send yangly3 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fffanfan

我还是相信川普



其实到目前为止,提前投票人数已经创历史记录,本次的总投票人数也有望超过2016大选--- は论结果如何,都是米国民众意愿的更为真实的反映,所以谁胜都是可以接受的
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fffanfan
我是菜鳥

303 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  07:35:38  會員資料 Send fffanfan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Picard

最後的民調,沒什麼surprise

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/02/election-2020-live-updates-trump-biden.html
UPDATED MON, NOV 2 20208:11 PM EST

The polling averages have been steady, showing Joe Biden with a large national lead over President Trump. In swing states, where the election will be decided, polling averages are tighter, although Biden has an edge in most of them. Both candidates are hitting the road today in one last mad dash before the voters who haven’t cast their ballots early head to the polls. Trump will split his time between Michigan, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, while Biden will focus mainly on Pennsylvania and a stop in Ohio.

///

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/presidential-polls-trump-biden

Assessing the last polls before the election.A smidge of tightening, but Biden ends with a commanding lead.
There wasn’t a lot of room for us to be surprised today, after a week of intensive polling. And indeed, we weren’t too surprised.

///

Nov. 2, 2020
1 day until Election Day

What Trump needs to win:A polling error much bigger than 2016’s.
President Trump’s surprising victory in 2016 gave him an aura of political invincibility. But he’s in a far bigger predicament now than the one he faced heading into Election Day in 2016. The polls show Joe Biden with a far more significant lead than the one held by Hillary Clinton, and many of the likeliest explanations for the polling misfire do not appear to be in play today.

Over at The Upshot, I go into the ways the polls are different today than they were in 2016, and what sort of polling error Mr. Trump would need to win at this point. (A big one.)

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MDC Naval Ensign.



我还是相信川普
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Captain Picard
我是老鳥

9618 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  09:57:17  會員資料 Send Captain Picard a Private Message
這次郵件投票大增,不知道跟當日投票是否一起計票。

郵件投票應該是民主黨佔優勢,而投票日投票應該是共和黨勝

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Captain Picard
我是老鳥

9618 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  09:59:08  會員資料 Send Captain Picard a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fffanfan

NO~~~ 川普还没有把奥巴马和拜登的烂摊子收拾好。还没有让美国再次伟大。



先搞出一個大爛攤子的是小布希。



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白河子
路人甲乙丙

Taiwan
4499 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  11:27:36  會員資料 Send 白河子 a Private Message
維吉尼亞看起來好像會翻,如果照現在這開票局勢下去沒有再大變化,拜登會選的比希婆慘...

Edited by - 白河子 on 11/04/2020 11:29:47
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JonJon
路人甲乙丙

3583 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  11:48:12  會員資料 Send JonJon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by 白河子

維吉尼亞看起來好像會翻,如果照現在這開票局勢下去沒有再大變化,拜登會選的比希婆慘...



你讓我嚇一跳

選舉人票明顯是拜登領先的,還以為川普又超車了

加州這民主黨大票倉也還沒開票

Edited by - JonJon on 11/04/2020 11:51:40
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MikeH
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USA
4668 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  11:57:44  會員資料  Visit MikeH's Homepage Send MikeH a Private Message
quote:
維吉尼亞看起來好像會翻


雖然 AP 還預測拜登將拿下我們維州
但川普目前有這領先幅度 我還蠻驚訝的


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MKMAN200
路人甲乙丙

1856 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:07:38  會員資料 Send MKMAN200 a Private Message
https://hk.news.yahoo.com/topic/us-election-2020
奇怪....這邊看拜登一直領先啊
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cwchang2100
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Cayman Islands
17243 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:24:26  會員資料  Visit cwchang2100's Homepage Send cwchang2100 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MikeH

quote:
維吉尼亞看起來好像會翻


雖然 AP 還預測拜登將拿下我們維州
但川普目前有這領先幅度 我還蠻驚訝的



目前看來,多數的搖擺州,還是川老闆領先.
不是說德州要變色嗎? 看來根本就不像.
連郭台銘去惡搞的維斯康辛,可能都還是川老闆的.

比較奇怪的是各家媒體的選舉人票數都是敗燈一開始領先到現在,
但是總票數這次卻是川老闆領先.
更慘的是如果照目前的各州領先度來看,敗燈可能真的會敗.

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這些秘密話語來自活著的耶穌,由迪迪摩斯•猶大•多馬記錄。
他說:「任何人發現了這些話的意義,將不會嚐到死亡的滋味。」
多馬福音第1節
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MKMAN200
路人甲乙丙

1856 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:31:43  會員資料 Send MKMAN200 a Private Message
是說...郵寄選票都算進這些點票數據了?
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Captain Picard
我是老鳥

9618 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:34:40  會員資料 Send Captain Picard a Private Message
這次問題是更多的郵件投票,而關鍵的密西根,賓州跟跟威斯康辛都不會先計算郵件投票,選舉日票會先出來。所以這幾個州預測會先有red mirage,然後可能發生blue shift。而且據說賓州計算郵件投票會很慢。

反過來說, 佛羅里達、北卡、德州先開出郵件投票、後選舉日,就可能是後段發生Red shift。

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/beware-blue-mirage-red-mirage-election-night-n1245925


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Edited by - Captain Picard on 11/04/2020 12:35:33
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MKMAN200
路人甲乙丙

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Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:39:39  會員資料 Send MKMAN200 a Private Message
目前看參眾兩院還是共和黨領先,是否可以反映這次選舉民意?
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白河子
路人甲乙丙

Taiwan
4499 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:42:27  會員資料 Send 白河子 a Private Message
難怪維吉尼亞州會被歸類在民主黨鐵票區,現在還真的翻回去了
賓州的費城也還沒開完,算上其他還沒開完的搖擺州外加郵寄票,這樣看拜登還是有很大贏面...

Edited by - 白河子 on 11/04/2020 12:45:36
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MikeH
路人甲乙丙

USA
4668 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:53:07  會員資料  Visit MikeH's Homepage Send MikeH a Private Message
quote:
目前看參眾兩院還是共和黨領先,是否可以反映這次選舉民意?


西部各州才開始計票沒多久 一切言之過早

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Captain Picard
我是老鳥

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Posted - 11/04/2020 :  12:58:32  會員資料 Send Captain Picard a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by 白河子

難怪維吉尼亞州會被歸類在民主黨鐵票區,現在還真的翻回去了



哪有,共和黨一直領先

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