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Posted - 10/23/2018 :  08:08:19  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send AS12 a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 10/23/2018 :  09:27:19  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send greencao a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 10/23/2018 :  12:13:15  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send kingcobra a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 10/23/2018 :  14:27:11  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send voidmagia a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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Posted - 10/23/2018 :  16:21:58  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send hcwu a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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1995 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2018 :  21:06:16  ·|­û¸ê®Æ Send kingcobra a Private Message  ¤Þ¨¥¦^ÂÐ
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America fears that time is on China¡¦s side. The Chinese economy is growing more than twice as fast as America¡¦s and the state is pouring money into advanced technology, such as artificial intelligence, quantum computing and biotech. Action that is merely daunting today¡Xto stem the illegal acquisition of intellectual property, say, or to challenge China in the South China Sea¡Xmay be impossible tomorrow.
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China¡¦s military spending has not changed much as a share of GDP; but when your GDP is as large as China¡¦s, and growing as fast, you can afford to buy a lot of arms. The International Institute for Strategic Studies, a think-tank, notes that since 2014 China has launched naval vessels ¡§with a total tonnage greater than the tonnages of the entire French, German, Indian, Italian, South Korean, Spanish or Taiwanese navies¡¨. What is more, the increasing number of its ships may well understate the rate at which China is improving its ability to sink enemy vessels. China¡¦s anti-ship missiles, launched at sea, in the air or from the ground, are more plentiful and more advanced than America¡¦s, and some boast longer ranges, too; the same goes for some of its other munitions. That, according to Eric Sayers, who until recently was a consultant at America¡¦s Indo-Pacific Command, is what America¡¦s planners need to worry about.
A growing array of satellites and sensors, including some on disputed islets, can funnel panoptic targeting data to this wide array of missiles, making it dangerous for hulking American aircraft-carriers to station themselves near flashpoints. ¡§In any air war we do great in the first couple of days,¡¨ says Christopher Johnson, formerly the CIA¡¦s senior China analyst. ¡§Then we have to move everything back to Japan, and we can¡¦t generate sufficient sorties from that point for deep strike on the mainland.¡¨ If America cannot destroy missile sites on the mainland it risks incurring severe losses in any fights near Chinese shores.

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For what comes next, however, Mr Trump needs a strategy, not just tactics. A starting point must be to promote America¡¦s values. Mr Trump acts as if he believes that might is right. He shows a cynical disdain for the values America enshrined in global institutions after the second world war. If he follows that course America will be diminished as an idea and as a moral and political force. When America competes with China as a guardian of a rules-based order, it starts from a position of strength. But any Western democracy that enters a ruthless race to the bottom with China will¡Xand should¡Xlose.

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Some years ago Fritz Scharpf, a political scientist, made a useful distinction between two sources of political legitimacy. Adapting Abraham Lincoln, his theory describes polities that gain ¡§input legitimacy¡¨ by electing citizen representatives and then holding them directly accountable, ie, that offer government of and by the people. Others claim ¡§output legitimacy¡¨ by enacting successful policies; ie, they offer government for the people.
Chinese leaders inhabit a universe that revolves around output legitimacy. They justify one-party rule by pointing to such achievements as economic growth and social stability. Though concerned with public opinion and eager for discreetly gathered feedback, they are appalled by chaotic, fact-free elections in the democratic world. Yet Western elites were taught the opposite lesson by their defeats by populists¡Xnamely, if voters do not feel listened to, displays of technocratic expertise are not enough.
This is more than a trade dispute. Increasingly China and the West disagree on the legitimacy of each other¡¦s complaints. China¡¦s leaders do not have to respect Mr Trump and his ilk. They should respect the forces that he rode to victory, which were building for years. If not, this crisis will outlast him, and them.

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